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SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:03 pm
by heinscott
Hello. I know this isn't exactly an Able issue, but, I was wondering if anyone out there would be able to help me with getting my virtual SMTP server under IIS running? I keep recieving a message from able when testing saying "Mailbox unavailable. The server response was: No such user here ". There is a strong possibility that I completely have this setup wrong, as I've never had a windows server to play around with until a couple of weeks ago.
Any help for me would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Scott

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:32 pm
by AbleMods
Here's a good walkthrough on how to do it: http://www.ilopia.com/Articles/WindowsS ... erver.aspx

but keep in mind that the built-in mail server in 2003 server is incredibly basic. It will have almost no spam protection nor will it protect you from reverse directory harvest attacks. Alot of bad things can happen to YOUR domain name if the mail server isn't configured well. I've picked up a few new clients just helping them get un-blacklisted because their previous IT support had no clue how to properly secure an email server.

Alot of the junk mail people get these days comes from unsecured mail servers - the owners have no clue their server is being used until someone blacklists their IP block. The remainder comes from malicious spyware installed on unsuspecting home PC's. That's why Comcast blocked all Port 25 traffic last year on their residential service backbones.

There's a really good and low-cost mail server product I've sold for years with my IT consulting business. I've run it since day-1 with Solunar.com - works great and blocks the daylights out of tons of spam. Obviously there's some cost, but you'd only need the smallest license and it's really pretty reasonable given all that it does. It's called MDaemon and it is at http://www.Altn.com

I have the Pro version so I can run multiple domain names through it but you probably only need the standard version. Their SecurityPlus anti-virus is stellar too, well worth the extra $.

I'm a reseller for it, so I can probably get you a few dollars off their prices, jut PM me if you decide to go that route. Installation is really easy too - I probably should offer to help you with that after the whole "labcoat incident" today ;)

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:02 pm
by compunerdy
Would setting something like this up be more cost effective than paying $10/month for E-mail per domain? I am currently paying for 3.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:40 pm
by AbleMods
short term, probably not. You will not see a breakeven on costs until 18-24 months.

But what you gain in control might be worth it to you. All depends on your own wants. For me, I plan on doing this for a minimum of 3-5 years so it was cost effective.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:14 pm
by sohaib
I would suggest having a look at GoogleApps for handling your email. You get to access your email in GMail. You have SMTP, POP, IMAP and great SPAM protection.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:59 am
by heinscott
I checked out the google aps options.... One question: does Able's setup support the requirements for using google's mail server for outgoing mail? When I put in my credentials, I get the following error in Able:

The SMTP server requires a secure connection or the client was not authenticated. The server response was: 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. 6sm8789988qwd.4

I've tried using both port 465 and 587. 465 times out, and 587 returns this error.

Thanks for the help.

Scott

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:30 am
by calvis
If you are trying to use Gmail for Domains then this post might help you with the settings:

viewtopic.php?p=31645#p31645

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:56 am
by heinscott
So what would I need to do if I wanted to use gmail smtp for all outgoing messages? Such as Order Confirmation, Order Shipped, etc...
Thanks

Scott

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:28 pm
by AbleMods
Scott, when you populate all the fields like that post Calvin referenced, it still doesn't work for you?

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:16 am
by heinscott
Nope... Those are the setting I was using previously. I understand that the conlib has the ability to use SSL, which is required, and hence if I am sending an email that way everything should work fine. I, however, wanted to use the google smtp server to send all my automatically triggered emails.
I'm definitely not absolutely dead set on going this direction... I just thought if it was easy I would give it a try.
Thanks

Scott

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:47 pm
by AbleMods
Ok, so then the final issue is that the email templates cannot be configured to use SSL but the ConLib control can be?

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:50 pm
by heinscott
That's my take on it.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:17 am
by AbleMods
If you haven't already, get a ticket in with Able - that'll need to be fixed.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:19 am
by sohaib
SolunarServices wrote:If you haven't already, get a ticket in with Able - that'll need to be fixed.
A bug for this is already there in our bug database and it has already been fixed for our 'future' version... but it will not make into the very next release we will post.

Re: SMTP on VPS server

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:59 am
by AbleMods
Good news, thanks Sohaib!