Where is HTMLHead in Gold?

[euroluxantiques]

I'm finally getting around to working on my Gold upgrade, and it's going alright, but I noticed that table ac_Categories has 2 new fields for MetaDescription and MetaKeywords. Makes sense, and overall an improvement over the old HTMLHead column in previous versions. Question is, where am I supposed to put my <title> tags for my categories? The words we use in our <title> tags have been around a long time, and I don't want to screw up our SEO by not including them.

[compunerdy]

This should be a field to edit in the Admin, not sure why it was never added.

[jmestep]

It it split into two fields in the admin- meta description and meta keywords. You just put content into both those fields and the page wraps that in meta tags. The meta keywords field also acts as the search keywords field instead of having a separate search keywords field.

[euroluxantiques]

I think there really ought to be a separate field. Otherwise, you have to add the <title> tags in the metadescription field. (I'm assuming Gold adds the necessary <meta> tags automatically.) It seems kind of strange to have to add some html tags in the field and leave out others. Would be more user-friendly to have it all one way or the other, or go back to the HTMLHead field concept.

[jmestep]

It is bad for a merchant going from 7 to Gold- nothing splits apart what was in the html head to place the description in one field and the keywords in another. There is also no way to put in other meta tags via the admin. I don't like having the keywords field be both for meta keywords and search- a merchant might not want it that way.

[frankenstein897]

I am trying to understand what is being said here. Because I am not happy with the title tags on Categories. Are you saying that there is no way to change the title tags for a category, other than changing the name of the category?

[jmestep]

Right now, there is no way to change the title tags without changing the name or creating some kind of work-around. In Able 7, that was the same as far as titles go. Our SEO Manager had a work-around to do it and we will be adding that feature to it in Gold.
(We are probably also going to be adding Rich Snippets also.)

[frankenstein897]

So your SEO Manager for Gold will allow it?

[jmestep]

Not yet- I have to finish upgrading it to Gold. It did it for older versions of Able and I will be recoding it for Gold.

[frankenstein897]

Ok, thank you. Let us know when it is complete.

[ChipWV]

Hey Judy,

I vote for the rich snippets too. That should have already been put in Gold, but I'll pay for an upgrade to get that feature. I've been happy with the SEO Manager for those considering it. It has fix some SEO problems built into AC7 and allowed an easier way to manage the HTML Head field. I'd like to have an option to include [MFG] and [SKU] for automatic generation in you upgrade.

Thanks
Chip
www.ovisonline.com

[euroluxantiques]

All of these things should be built into the admin panel by default, in my opinion. For those of us who have SEO Manager for 7, will there be an upgrade price point?

[jmestep]

It would be good if it were in the admin by default and Able has a new feedback link in the R3 admin for feature requests so be sure to post there.
SEO Manager upgrade to Gold- I'm not sure of the cost on it.

[Humannature]

If there is no place to put information in the HTML head how can you put Facebook tags in? Without them Facebook grabs whatever image it wants (usually the wrong one) and uses it. Also you cant specify the text to show. We have spent a lot of time using the Facebook debugger to make sure that when a person likes one of our products the correct image and text is shown.

http://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug

[jmestep]

You have to put code you want in the head of the page in a file on the file system. For example, to load the javascript for the site, Able has code in Layouts/Base.master.cs

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if (head1 != null)
            {
                // insert necessary javascripts
                string scriptTag = "<script src=\"{0}\" type=\"text/javascript\"></script>";
                string jquery = Page.ResolveUrl("~/Scripts/jquery-1.5.1.min.js");
                string jqueryUI = Page.ResolveUrl("~/Scripts/jquery-ui.min.js");
                string equalHeightsUrl = Page.ResolveUrl("~/Scripts/jquery.equalheights.js");
                //w2m jme for mojo zoom - reference to jquery.js is already here so I don't need to add it again
                string jqueryMojo = Page.ResolveUrl("~/Scripts/mojozoom.js");
                head1.Controls.Add(new LiteralControl(string.Format(scriptTag, jquery)));
                head1.Controls.Add(new LiteralControl(string.Format(scriptTag, jqueryUI)));
                head1.Controls.Add(new LiteralControl(string.Format(scriptTag, equalHeightsUrl)));
                head1.Controls.Add(new LiteralControl(string.Format(scriptTag, jqueryMojo)));
            }

The actual head tag can have code added also, for example in Layouts/Base.master

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<head id="head1" runat="server">
    <title>AbleCommerce: Software that Sells!(TM)</title>	
    <asp:ContentPlaceHolder ID="HtmlHeader" runat="server">
    </asp:ContentPlaceHolder>
    <cb:StylePlaceHolder runat="server"></cb:StylePlaceHolder>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
    <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=9" />
</head>

[jmestep]

The W2M SEO Manager for Gold is out now, but it doesn't include RichSnippets. This is because the snippet tag code needs to go in the display page for a product. It needs to be integrated into other html markup that is already there and that content could be in 2 0r 3 different conlibs- image, buy product dialog, product description. We are still experimenting to make sure Google picks them up because the rich snippets are all supposed to be in the same div. We might come out with a set of conlibs that integrate the snippets, but so many merchants change thing around in their display content that the snippet tags might have to be added in different conlibs.

[Logan Rhodehamel]

Because of this thread we've logged a few todo items for our next round of updates. We will add the ability to alter the title, a separate meta and search keywords field, and restore the HTMLHead field for uses unrelated to the SEO meta tags.

[ChipWV]

Hi Logan,

I'm glad to see AC paying more attention to SEO, and the ability to manage it. A database and the interface to manage it should be as granular as manageable. Having separate fields for distinct values is much easier to manage when importing or mass updated the data. I can easily concatenate a title together in a spreadsheet that looks like <title>Manufacturer, Part Number, Product Name</title> but then if you need or want to add the meta description and meta keywords on lines into the same field, it starts to become unwieldy.

Now you need to get the rich snippets setup so that our products stand out in search results pages. Since the search providers went to so much trouble to create a set of standards to classify micro date, I think they want us to use it, and will reward us for doing so. We also need to have a order follow up email asking for a product reviews so that the rating snippet has something to show. Amazon asks every customer to write a product review and merchant review for every order, and that results in a 2% response rate, so how many do you think we get without a follow up email? I'd guess about .000000000002%.

Thanks
Chip
http://www.OVISonline.com

[Logan Rhodehamel]

Rich snippets got added as a feature task as well. That one will take some research but microdata format looks promising.

[Humannature]

I am looking at Able Commerce Gold and it seems that you cant import the Meta tags from a 7. site. OK I can understand that because of the new meta fields, but that means yo have to create all new tags for every product. But what about categories? You can't export or do a batch edit for categoreis (at least as far as I can tell). So does Able expect everyone to do them all one at a time? We have over one thousand categories!

[ForumsAdmin]

HtmlHead field has been restored for catalog objects in R5.